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[00:00:10] Ray Thompson: My name is Ray Thompson. I'm the director of the Edward H. Knapp Research Center for Delmarva History and Culture here at Salisbury University. And we're here today with Mildred Duffy James. Good morning, Mildred. [00:00:20][9.8]

[00:00:21] Mildred Duffy James: Good morning, Mrs. Thompson. [00:00:22][1.7]

[00:00:22] Ray Thompson: It's good talking to you and we're going to be talking to you about your years growing up here in Salisbury and your memories of this town and its changes over the years. So if you'll tell us at the beginning a little bit about your birth and where you lived and we'll move on from there. [00:00:38][15.3]

[00:00:38] Mildred Duffy James: Well, I was born in 1939 here in Salisbury in the South Salisbury area on Jenkins Lane. [00:00:50][11.9]

[00:00:51] Ray Thompson: Jenkins Lane, so yeah, so South Salisbury to many people will not be a name that is Recognized so will you say a little bit about the area what area that contains? [00:01:03][12.1]

[00:01:04] Mildred Duffy James: That area would contain mostly, let's say, from Lincoln Avenue, which was run off of South Division Street, all the way to Route 13. And it included Vine Street and some of those other areas, Washington Street. But I was born on Jenkins Lane. [00:01:25][20.6]

[00:01:27] Ray Thompson: And Jenkins Lane still exists today. [00:01:28][1.7]

[00:01:28] Mildred Duffy James: Jenkins Lane still exists. On Jenkins Lane now there are only two family homes, doctor's offices. I believe that's all on Jenkins Lane. [00:01:41][12.7]

[00:01:42] Ray Thompson: In the home that you were born in still stands, or? [00:01:45][2.9]

[00:01:45] Mildred Duffy James: Not the home that I was born in, but one of the homes that I lived in is still, well it's not still standing. I have a friend whose house that we grew up together, her mother's house is still standing [00:01:59][14.2]

[00:02:00] Ray Thompson: So we're basically talking about the area from the hospital on south, is that correct, and east to Lincoln Street. It's a fairly big chunk of territory, and I'll bet it's changed considerably since 1939, hasn't it? [00:02:20][19.5]

[00:02:21] Mildred Duffy James: I can truly say it's changed, and in that area there were only 13 houses of black people, which was Jenkins Lane that I was born on, Evans Place, and Morris Street. North Street actually was like a half street because part of it held a shirt factory. Which was the old, I think, Manhattan shirt factory. [00:02:53][32.1]

[00:02:54] Ray Thompson: So now, it sounds like you grew up in an area that was racially diverse then, is that correct? You were a little pocket surrounded by a white neighborhood, a larger white neighborhood. Is that right? [00:03:07][13.3]

[00:03:08] Mildred Duffy James: Believe it or not, we really were, but guess what? You never really knew it because we were all one big family. Did I say we grew up together? We did. [00:03:19][11.0]

[00:03:19] Ray Thompson: You did grow up together. I was interested to hear that you didn't grow up in the area that so many of the African Americans in this town grew up in. So tell us a little bit about growing up in South Salisbury, in that area. [00:03:34][15.0]

[00:03:35] Mildred Duffy James: It was, it was wonderful. That's, I can truly say it was wonderful. Our parents were, they were great. All of us children, like I said, we grew up together. We played together. It really wasn't too much playing for us entertainment. We actually entertained each other. I went to other people's houses to watch television because we didn't have one. But like I say, we played together, and I had one incident that happened that it was really because we played in the mud puddles a lot. I mean, we had nothing to do, really, but playing, like some kids, you know, in that area would play. We played in mud puddles and we made our toys. [00:04:27][52.2]

[00:04:29] Ray Thompson: Sounds like you're a lot more creative than a lot of young people today are. You had to create your entertainment. [00:04:35][5.4]

[00:04:36] Mildred Duffy James: Absolutely. Absolutely. And the parents, not only that, the parents played with the kids. Like, when I say played, when we did games together. And if we were out in the yard, the parents would be out there watching us, or, or coaching us to do something, or just laughing with us, you know. It was a, it was a great, great growing up. [00:05:00][24.3]

[00:05:01] Ray Thompson: So there was a lot of interaction between the generations then, which is something that we don't see in a lot cases today then. [00:05:08][7.0]

[00:05:08] Mildred Duffy James: Absolutely. [00:05:08][0.0]

[00:05:09] Ray Thompson: Do you think that obviously that had a lot to do with your development, your growing up, having people there, adults around you, as well as kids your own age. What kinds of things did you do, what kinds of relationships did you develop with the people in that area? [00:05:29][19.2]

[00:05:30] Mildred Duffy James: Well, we went from house to house and we played different games and in one incident I remember how my brother, I have one brother, and actually I was the youngest one of the whole, those three, those thirteen, I was a youngest. [00:05:53][22.6]

[00:05:53] Ray Thompson: Everybody liked you then. [00:05:55][2.0]

[00:05:55] Mildred Duffy James: A lot of people picked on me. A lot of people picked on me, of course, but we, like I said, we did different things together as far as making our own toys and one of the things that, like the families, we did a lot of putting puzzles together and guess what? That was our picture frames on the walls. Putting puzzles together. We did things like that. [00:06:24][28.2]

[00:06:24] Ray Thompson: Did you feel any overt racism as you were growing up? [00:06:29][5.2]

[00:06:31] Mildred Duffy James: No, I often think about the young lady, and I cannot think of her name, but her father had a store on the corner of Evans Place, Mr. Roy Bram. And he had a daughter, and we used to play a lot all the time, all the time. We played a lot and my brother and often he talks about that it was one young white boy in the neighborhood and we never could think of his name but we remembered him because he had red hair and they were good buddies. They were good buddy's and one of the greatest things even about that, now our school was over like... Well, what they called, I think, Jersey Heights now. It's off on Lake Street. So you had quite a hike to school. Oh, yes, 3 and 1 half miles every day. [00:07:38][66.6]

[00:07:39] Ray Thompson: And how did you get there? [00:07:41][1.8]

[00:07:44] Mildred Duffy James: Up until I was seven years old, and remember I said I was the youngest of the group over there, we walked. [00:07:51][7.3]

[00:07:52] Ray Thompson: You walked that three and a half. [00:07:53][1.2]

[00:07:53] Mildred Duffy James: We walked that three and a half miles every day. Most only days we didn't walk was like rainy days. And of course, some of our parents, we didn't have tax and money. So we had to walk. [00:08:10][17.2]

[00:08:12] Ray Thompson: And you probably didn't think that that was unusual, did you? [00:08:16][3.3]

[00:08:16] Mildred Duffy James: Back then, no. Yeah. No. [00:08:18][1.6]

[00:08:18] Ray Thompson: You were probably not the only ones walking to school. [00:08:21][2.8]

[00:08:23] Mildred Duffy James: Absolutely. But not only that, one of the young men that lived in that area, he went into military. When he came out of military, he came to the board of education and he said, there are three or four busses that pass the area of St. Salisbury. There is No reason. They cannot stop to pick up the kids in that area. And it worked. So it worked? It worked. So like I said, up until I was in the seventh grade, after the seventh great, we rode on a school bus. [00:09:06][43.1]

[00:09:08] Ray Thompson: I was just thinking as you're talking, this is before Highway 50 came through. [00:09:12][4.7]

[00:09:13] Mildred Duffy James: Oh yes! [00:09:13][0.3]

[00:09:13] Ray Thompson: So you saw a completely different kind of vista of Salisbury. [00:09:20][6.6]

[00:09:21] Mildred Duffy James: One of the things that I remember about that area was a store called Pet Duties. That was on the corner where, across from where Family Brothers used to be in that area. And I remember that because we always stopped there and got pen and candy all the way to school. [00:09:42][20.6]

[00:09:42] Ray Thompson: On your way to school. [00:09:43][0.7]

[00:09:43] Mildred Duffy James: Stick it in our notebooks. [00:09:44][0.8]

[00:09:48] Ray Thompson: Well, tell me a little bit about your education, the kind of education you got at, you said Jersey Heights was the... [00:09:55][6.9]

[00:09:55] Mildred Duffy James: Well, that's what I believe that area was mostly called then, but now my education, I went from the first grade to the eleventh grade. I decided I wanted to come out of school. [00:10:14][18.6]

[00:10:14] Ray Thompson: Oh, really? Yes. So you went to Y High, then. [00:10:17][2.8]

[00:10:18] Mildred Duffy James: No, we passed Wye (Wicomico) High all those years. Wye high was not there. It was called Salisbury High School. [00:10:26][8.6]

[00:10:27] Ray Thompson: High school, yes. [00:10:28][0.6]

[00:10:28] Mildred Duffy James: On Lake Street is where I went and of course in the 11th grade I was able to go to the new street I mean the new school that was built on Morris Street which now is an elementary school but I went there one year but like I said I came out in the eleventh grade You know, how some kids, you know, we get a little grown. We feel like we want to do more. [00:10:56][28.0]

[00:10:57] Ray Thompson: Exactly, so you decided you'd had enough education. Yeah, what did you decide to do with your life then? [00:11:02][5.2]

[00:11:02] Mildred Duffy James: Well, first of all, my mother, she didn't like it. My teachers, my teachers didn't like it because I was a good student. I mean, I was, I mean I was a B student. [00:11:12][9.7]

[00:11:13] Ray Thompson: And so why did you decide you wanted to leave school you probably like the students that you were with [00:11:20][6.9]

[00:11:22] Mildred Duffy James: WHAA- I did. I really did. I love school. As some children say today, I fell in love. [00:11:33][10.9]

[00:11:34] Ray Thompson: Oh, you've met a boy from the South, from Princess Anne, I guess. [00:11:38][3.8]

[00:11:39] Mildred Duffy James: Not, no, that one wasn't from Princess Anne, but yes, I read a man. [00:11:43][4.2]

[00:11:44] Ray Thompson: So that sort of changed, that put the education on the back burner, okay, and your mother was not happy about that. [00:11:54][9.9]

[00:11:54] Mildred Duffy James: No she was not. No she wasn't. My teachers weren't happy because I wasn't a bad student but anyway that's how it went. [00:12:01][7.7]

[00:12:04] Ray Thompson: So did you. [00:12:04][0.6]

[00:12:04] Mildred Duffy James: But even after that though, I still got married, I went to, before that, I was working in the hospital. Oh yes, I worked after school and on weekends. And of course, after I quit school, I wouldn't work full time at the hospital. [00:12:28][24.2]

[00:12:29] Ray Thompson: So you really have spent much of your life working in a hospital situation. [00:12:33][4.0]

[00:12:37] Mildred Duffy James: And after that, I decided, well, I still wanted to do something else. So I went to cosmetology school. [00:12:45][8.1]

[00:12:46] Ray Thompson: Oh really? [00:12:46][0.3]

[00:12:46] Mildred Duffy James: Yes, I went to cosmetology school. I received my senior license. I owned my own shop for a while. Then I decided I didn't want to do that either. So I went back to the hospital. And of course, I'll say this, but in between, but I was at the hospital for 43 years. That's where I retired from. [00:13:10][24.3]

[00:13:11] Ray Thompson: You were at the hospital for 43 years. Yes. [00:13:13][1.9]

[00:13:13] Mildred Duffy James: Yes, yes. But like I said, I went back to the hospital and I worked, I didn't quit anymore, I went in several departments. But guess what? In 1984, I said no. I am going back to school and get my high school diploma. So I went to what they call external education. I went back and I got my Salisbury High School Diploma in 1984. [00:13:48][35.1]

[00:13:49] Ray Thompson: How exciting is that? Oh. [00:13:50][1.3]

[00:13:52] Mildred Duffy James: It was for me because I was determined I was going to do it. [00:13:54][2.6]

[00:13:56] Ray Thompson: And did you have any, when you finished that degree in 1984, did you think back, why didn't I do that other year, way back when? Yes. Yeah, I'm sure you did. Oh, yes I did. Yes I did! And then you could probably say, how would my life have been changed? It may not have been change because you seemed to have had a calling toward the medical field all along. Yes. [00:14:19][23.0]

[00:14:20] Mildred Duffy James: And I tell people, that's the one thing that I regret is the fact that I did not go ahead and become, you know, an RN. But still, I still said it's still fine because I love people, and being a CNA, I was able to come directly in contact with the person, which was... [00:14:40][20.5]

[00:14:42] Ray Thompson: And that's very important. That's an awfully important part of the healing process when people are in the hospital and having somebody who is like you, who's... That hand-on-hand. Exactly, very important [00:14:52][10.5]

[00:14:53] Mildred Duffy James: Yes, and of course, after all that... I became a born again Christian in 1977 and of course after that my life had never been the same. [00:15:10][16.9]

[00:15:11] Ray Thompson: Well, that's probably why you have that smile on your face. [00:15:13][2.0]

[00:15:16] Mildred Duffy James: I know I have to keep. This. [00:15:16][1.0]

[00:15:17] Ray Thompson: Yeah. [00:15:17][0.0]

[00:15:17] Mildred Duffy James: Exactly. I have to. [00:15:18][1.0]

[00:15:19] Ray Thompson: Well, tell me a little bit about your mother. Do you know much about your mother? [00:15:23][4.3]

[00:15:24] Mildred Duffy James: Oh yes, oh yes. She was, first of all, and I think this is part of the reason I smile a lot, because she was such a joyful person. People loved to be around her, and even talking about some of the things of South Salisbury, there was a, which we didn't mention, was a potato factory. Yes, a sweet potato factory set right in front of our house. And she actually used to do the men, like they come in with truckloads of sweet potatoes and all that. The men a lot of time would come to our house and eat because she'd fix food for them. And you know it was a fun thing and she'd sometimes even do their laundry. And of course they'd pay her. But I said it was a fun thing. And she was such a joyful person. She loved people. She loved People. And we always, like I said, we did puzzles together. She was always doing something with my brother and I. Is that right? Yeah, she made candy. That's something I never learned how to do, but she made Candy for us and do the puzzles for us. I was telling somebody no longer than a day, I said the one thing that I got from my mother because she kept me in the kitchen, I learned how to make sweet biscuits because we had them practically every day. [00:17:03][99.4]

[00:17:04] Ray Thompson: Did you yes, and it sounds like she must have been an important part of your education though She was working with puzzles with you. She was oh, yeah. Oh, yeah getting you to think yes [00:17:13][9.2]

[00:17:13] Mildred Duffy James: Yes. Up until the time she passed, she always did crossword puzzles. Oh, really? Yeah. Yes. Wow. Yes, she was something. [00:17:23][9.4]

[00:17:23] Ray Thompson: Now she grew up in Parsonsburg. In Parsonsberg, yes. But moved to Salisbury before you were born. And that, even though today that seems like a small move, it probably was a fairly significant move then. [00:17:40][17.3]

[00:17:42] Mildred Duffy James: Well, it probably was because right beside her, right beside the house where I was born, her mother lived. Oh. Yeah, so my grandmother lived right beside us. [00:17:54][12.2]

[00:17:54] Ray Thompson: That was in person. [00:17:55][0.6]

[00:17:55] Mildred Duffy James: No, that was in Salzburg, in Salzberg, on Tink and Slate. [00:17:58][3.3]

[00:17:59] Ray Thompson: Oh, I see. So you had a blood family as well as a larger friendship family. Yes, yes. [00:18:07][8.6]

[00:18:07] Mildred Duffy James: Yes, yes, and I tell people even about that and it's one thing I never will forget. In my grandmother's yard was a weeping willow tree. Which was something. Because sometimes that weeping willow tree, you know, the limbs were like real limber. Sometimes those limbs were made for switches. [00:18:30][23.2]

[00:18:31] Ray Thompson: Oh yes, yes. So you recognize that. Oh yes. Oh yes! [00:18:36][5.2]

[00:18:38] Mildred Duffy James: Yes. And we were really close. We were really close. Like I said, not just my family, but it was one big family. [00:18:46][8.1]

[00:18:46] Ray Thompson: I think that's an important thing to remember. That's something that in some ways is gone now with people. They don't have that, often that friendly, welcoming attitude that you seem to have felt throughout your growing up and adult life. [00:19:13][26.2]

[00:19:16] Mildred Duffy James: And even the, like I said, before I was the youngest, but we just got along. And I mean, and there were times that, you know, we aggravated one another. Oh yeah, we aggravate it when they say, oh, but you know I'm not talking to you, I'm going home. That was the word, I am going home, but then we'd be back together the next day, you now, like that could never happen. So it [00:19:46][30.1]

[00:19:47] Ray Thompson: Now, you said there was a shirt factory near where you live. Yes, yes. Did you have any, did any of your family have any relationship with that shirt factory? [00:19:57][9.4]

[00:19:58] Mildred Duffy James: No, only seen, you know, seen different ones and speaking, but I have one thing that happened concerning that shirt factory, and I often think about that lady. She was, well, what today people call a midget that worked at that shirt factor. She gave me a bicycle. Really? Yes. Yes. She gave me a, I'll never ask, and she had a red hair. She had red hair long, red hair! And that's about all I remember about her. You know, she was real nice, but she gave me a bicycle. It worked with that shirt factory. [00:20:36][37.9]

[00:20:38] Ray Thompson: Is there anything that you particularly remember about your growing up that you'd like to relate to us? [00:20:44][5.9]

[00:20:49] Mildred Duffy James: Well, two things, really. With my brother, like I said, we were close. We were really, really close. We played together, and of course, he was mischievous. [00:21:01][12.6]

[00:21:02] Ray Thompson: Mm-hmm [00:21:02][0.0]

[00:21:03] Mildred Duffy James: I mean, after all, he was three years older than I. So if anybody knows anything about that little sister and with a big brother. So a lot of times he would do little mischievous things to me and then wind up getting beat. [00:21:22][18.7]

[00:21:23] Ray Thompson: Ah [00:21:23][0.0]

[00:21:25] Mildred Duffy James: But one particular thing happened about my brother. And I can say it was all, we grew up without a father. Well, I was four when my mother and father separated. And, of course, she never remarried. But my brother, he was so good, he would get hurried out to clean people's houses. And this one particular house he went to, Which was next door. He had washed the dishes and was up putting the dishes away. And they had these benches, like with the legs in the center of it. And while he was up there putting the dish away, I got up on the other end of this bench. And he jumped off! [00:22:17][51.2]

[00:22:18] Ray Thompson: Oh, no. [00:22:18][0.3]

[00:22:21] Mildred Duffy James: And of course it struck me in my chest and it did not the win out of me so this scared him to death. [00:22:29][8.2]

[00:22:31] Ray Thompson: I'll bet it. [00:22:32][0.3]

[00:22:32] Mildred Duffy James: It scared him to death, but anyway he got himself together to call somebody over there to me, but he never picked up, well he did still pick up, but not as much because that sort of scared him. [00:22:47][14.6]

[00:22:48] Ray Thompson: So he was the oldest of the three? Yes, yes, yes. And you had another brother or a son? [00:22:52][4.4]

[00:22:52] Mildred Duffy James: No, just the one brother. [00:22:54][1.0]

[00:22:54] Ray Thompson: I'm just the one. [00:22:54][0.5]

[00:22:55] Mildred Duffy James: Brother. Just one brother. Yes, just one brother, yeah, his three years of living. But we were close, and we still are close. Yes, he lives in Pennsylvania. His name is Lois. But we're still close. Yeah, we're close, even to the point, even when our mother passed, he was standing on one side of our bed, and I was standing the other. That's how close we were. [00:23:25][30.0]

[00:23:30] Ray Thompson: Let me ask you another question about your education. We sort of skipped over that. Is there any, was there a subject that you particularly liked when you were in school? One that, more than others? Science. Science? [00:23:41][11.0]

[00:23:41] Mildred Duffy James: Science? [00:23:41][0.0]

[00:23:42] Ray Thompson: Yes. [00:23:42][0.0]

[00:23:43] Mildred Duffy James: Oh, I love science. I really do. I like to explore. [00:23:46][3.0]

[00:23:47] Ray Thompson: That's great, so that explains the medical, the interest in medicine. [00:23:53][5.0]

[00:23:53] Mildred Duffy James: I think that might have had something to do with it, but yeah, I love science. [00:23:57][3.6]

[00:24:00] Ray Thompson: And you're retired now, is that correct? Yes. [00:24:02][2.0]

[00:24:02] Mildred Duffy James: Yes, I'm retired. I retired eight years ago. [00:24:05][3.2]

[00:24:09] Ray Thompson: Is there anything else you'd like to tell us about growing up in Salisbury, about your early years or more recent? [00:24:16][7.3]

[00:24:17] Mildred Duffy James: I don't know if you remember. Harris Market. Well, the aunt of that store was Ms. Annie Godfrey. And there were times that I used to go down there to that store to help clean it. I mean, that was a little thing. And we'd get 50 cent an hour. 50 cent a hour. I'd go down to that store and of course that was that was actually one of the main stores in that area. [00:24:54][37.3]

[00:24:55] Ray Thompson: Yeah. Exactly. [00:24:55][0.8]

[00:24:56] Mildred Duffy James: Of course, like I said, that was Mr. Roy Brown's store. And then where Dave's Kek Shop is was John Sermon's store, so actually that was three grocery stores in that area. [00:25:11][15.2]

[00:25:12] Ray Thompson: Right in that area. [00:25:12][0.6]

[00:25:14] Mildred Duffy James: Yes, yes, yes. But we love going to Ms. Ada Godfrey's, which is Harris Market now, and I still say they still have the best produce. Oh yeah, my wife does too. Yeah, they still had the best produced there. But after, after, uh... I say, accepting Christ in my life. Finally I Be married Of course my other husband he he died, but I be married and with so many people know The James family a lot of people they know that name [00:26:00][46.3]

[00:26:01] Ray Thompson: Yeah, it's a well-known name. They know that name. [00:26:03][2.9]

[00:26:05] Mildred Duffy James: I'm not into that family. I'm very dumb. His father was an undertaker in Princess Anne, it's Will James, yes, and so I married his son, and like I said, we were only married before he took, before he passed, we only married seven years, but I tell people they were the most wonderful years of my life, besides growing up. And besides accepting Christ. [00:26:39][33.9]

[00:26:41] Ray Thompson: You have a very positive outlook, that's what's keeping you young, I think. [00:26:44][3.6]

[00:26:46] Mildred Duffy James: That and him. [00:26:47][1.0]

[00:26:49] Ray Thompson: Absolutely. [00:26:49][0.0]

[00:26:50] Mildred Duffy James: That and him. [00:26:50][0.6]

[00:26:53] Ray Thompson: Are there any other things you'd like to tell us about yourself? [00:26:55][2.2]

[00:26:58] Mildred Duffy James: It was my grandfather's brother, whose name was Hank, and he would, on Sunday mornings, he would gather up some of the children, and we'd go down 13, which was 13 then, to John Wesley Church. And I can remember then, even when I was five, six or seven years old, that I was to John Wesley Church right down Church Street. [00:27:27][29.0]

[00:27:28] Ray Thompson: And that was quite a walk too. [00:27:29][1.3]

[00:27:29] Mildred Duffy James: Oh yes, but we won! It was fun! [00:27:31][1.7]

[00:27:32] Ray Thompson: That would have been the closest church to you, then. There were lots of other churches in that neighborhood, weren't there? That was the closest, yeah. [00:27:41][8.7]

[00:27:43] Mildred Duffy James: Yeah, that was the closest. Because like I said, I told somebody, somebody asked me, why did I want to go on this quest? And I said I had been thinking about it for a while. But a few weeks ago, I seen this article in one of the papers that said, growing up in Salisbury as a kid. And I said, you know what? I said that's it. That's it because so many people do not even remember the area that I grew up in because of, and like the shirt factory, the sweet potato factory, the sawmill, and a cement company. It was all in that area within those three streets. [00:28:35][51.7]

[00:28:35] Ray Thompson: So it was a mixture of residential and business. That's an unusual kind of thing, too. It was kind of like a little community, a little town within a town, wasn't it? [00:28:48][13.1]

[00:28:50] Mildred Duffy James: I guess you could say that, because like I said, it was just 13 houses, 701 side, and six out of nothing. Then it was two in the middle, which was on Morris Street. We used to go, like our house was only two houses from the railroad track. We used go to the railroad tracks and watch the cars go by. And, of course, that was the neighbor base in Norfolk. And a lot of the naval fellows and all used to go by in the train and we'd be like that waving to them as they went by. And my brother and I, he starts to play on the ribbon track. Something else too that a lot of people they probably they probably don't even think about that today. I don't know if they grow Saspas roots [00:29:44][54.3]

[00:29:46] Ray Thompson: That's a wrap. That's the wrap. [00:29:48][1.3]

[00:29:48] Mildred Duffy James: We used to go along the railroad track and dig that up. [00:29:51][3.6]

[00:29:52] Ray Thompson: So it was growing in plenty right along the track. [00:29:55][2.3]

[00:29:55] Mildred Duffy James: That and blackberries were all around that redwood track and we used to go there and get that. [00:30:02][7.0]

[00:30:04] Ray Thompson: So you weren't afraid to be near a railroad or, of course, you were right close to the highway, too, weren't you? And of course the 13 wasn't quite what it is today. No, no. [00:30:19][14.8]

[00:30:22] Mildred Duffy James: But, yeah, we were only two houses away from the railroad tracks. [00:30:27][4.6]

[00:30:28] Ray Thompson: And the grocery store that you went to ordinarily was just down the street then too. [00:30:32][4.1]

[00:30:32] Mildred Duffy James: Yeah, Harris Market. Like I said, Harris market. That was the father's, and then there was Mr. Roy Brown's, which was on Evans Place, and Mr. John Salmon's store. Of course, that was South Division Street. Those were the three grocery stores in the area. [00:30:50][17.9]

[00:30:52] Ray Thompson: Well, thank you for being here and talking to us today. We really appreciate it. [00:30:55][3.4]

[00:30:56] Mildred Duffy James: I've enjoyed being here. [00:30:57][1.1]

[00:30:59] Ray Thompson: As we end this presentation, I'd like to ask the audience if they, if anyone in the audience has pictures of the Jenkins Lane, Morris Lane, South Salisbury area in the 30s, 40s, 50s, if you would, if your willing to share them with the NAB Center, we'd like to have copies of them and you can send them to the Edward H. NAB. Research Center for Dome Arbor History and Culture at Salisbury University, Salisbury, Maryland 21801, or you can just come by the Research Center on East Campus as well. Thank you all for listening today. [00:30:59][0.0] [1691.1]